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Inclusive vs. Exclusive 'we'

English uses the single pronoun "we" to refer to any group that includes the speaker. Malay distinguishes between two types of "we" based on whether the listener is included in that group. This distinction is known as clusivity (inclusive vs. exclusive).

01

Exclusive 'We': Kami

The pronoun is used when the speaker refers to themselves and others, but excludes the person they are talking to. It creates a distinction between "us" (the speaker's group) and "you" (the listener).

Use in scenarios such as:

  • Reporting back to a boss about what your team did.
  • Telling a friend about a family vacation they did not attend.
  • Explaining your group's preferences or background to a stranger.
  • Kami berasal dari Kuala Lumpur.

    We are from Kuala Lumpur. (Implying: You are not, or I am just stating our origin).

  • Maaf, kami tidak boleh bantu awak.

    Sorry, we cannot help you.

  • Kami akan bertolak esok pagi.

    We will depart tomorrow morning.

02

Inclusive 'We': Kita

The pronoun includes the speaker, the listener, and potentially others. It implies "you and I" or "all of us together." This form is used to build solidarity, give commands that include the speaker, or state general facts affecting everyone.

Use in scenarios such as:

  • Making plans with friends.
  • Discussing shared national identity or human experiences.
  • Suggesting a mutual action ("Let's...").
  • Kita haruslah menghormati orang tua.

    We should respect our elders.

  • Pukul berapa kita nak jumpa?

    What time do we want to meet?

  • Kita semua bersaudara.

    We are all related/brothers.

03

Possessive Usage: 'Our'

This distinction extends to possessive pronouns (our). Choosing the wrong word can imply that the listener owns something they do not, or conversely, that they are excluded from ownership of a shared item.

Our (Exclusive):

This means "our house" (belonging to me and my family), but not the listener. You would use this when inviting a guest over.

  • Selamat datang ke pejabat kami.

    Welcome to our office.

Our (Inclusive):

This means "our house" (belonging to both me and you). A husband might say this to his wife, or siblings might say this to each other.

  • Negara kita sangat indah.

    Our country is very beautiful.

04

Informal Spoken Variations

In casual, spoken Malay, you will often hear the word (person/people) attached to these pronouns to emphasize the plural nature of the group.

  • Kitorang (Short for ): Casual inclusive "we".
  • Kamiorang (Short for ): Casual exclusive "we".

Additionally, in very specific casual contexts or regional dialects, a speaker might use to refer to themselves as a singular "I". This is done to sound softer or more humble than using the standard "I" ( or ), though this usage is not standard grammar.

  • Kitorang nak pergi makan, nak ikut?

    We are going to eat, want to come? (Note: Here the speaker uses the inclusive form 'kitorang' but the context implies an invitation, effectively functioning as 'kami' until the listener accepts).

  • Kamiorang tak tahu pasal tu.

    We didn't know about that.

In the course

Sentences from Lingora’s Malay course

27 of the course's 500 sentences use this, the first in lesson 7. A few of them, with the words “Inclusive vs. Exclusive 'we'” is about in bold:

  • Di mana anak perempuan kita? - Dia di sekolah.

    Where is our daughter? - She's at school.

    Lesson 242

  • Jangan lupa keju untuk perkelahan kita.

    Don't forget the cheese for our picnic.

    Lesson 477

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